My sudden (and lengthy) cessation of blogging resulted from a perfect storm of unforeseen and uncontrollable events. It began with greatly increased work-related demands on my time, but then a variety of other unexpected and time-consuming events occurred in rapid succession. Included in these was a completely unexpected death in the family (not my immediate family, but close enough).
While forced off-line by these events, I began to think about my motivation for blogging. More than anything else, it seems clear that my primary motivation to blog came from my belief that, unbeknownst to many, we were in an actual war against al Qaeda in Iraq (and we were not in any kind of war against al Qaeda in Afghanistan -- there, we are fighting the hapless but relentless Taliban). That is, according to my view, many Americans, most Democratic politicians, and virtually all reporters had the story exactly backwards in that they all seemed to believe that the "real terrorists" were in Afghanistan, not Iraq. That belief motivated me to blog.
The war with al Qaeda in Iraq was declared by al Qaeda after our invasion. Thus, you can blame the post-invasion war either on them or on Bush, depending on your personal politics. Regardless of who gets the blame, the passionate belief that I have steadfastly defended on my blog was that we could not possibly consider withdrawing our troops until we had defeated the vicious and evil force that declared war on us after we liberated the Iraqi people from Saddam Hussein. Al Qaeda came because we were there, but they would not just dry up an bow away if they had succeeded in defeating the U.S. military. That is, al Qaeda was not seeking to liberate Iraq from the tyranny of U.S. domination. Their plans were much more sinister than that, and the stature and strength of their global terrorist organization would have been greatly enhanced if they had succeeded in their efforts in Iraq. That's why we had to stay and finish them off.
Well, it now seems clear to me that al Qaeda in Iraq has been defeated. Really, truly, militarily defeated. The Shiites and Sunnis of Iraq may yet choose to have a civil war on their own (probably not, though), but I see no path for al Qaeda to make a comeback. To me, that's the important thing. It is the outcome that has global significance, whereas a civil war (or not) between Shiites and Sunnis has less significance. Now that al Qaeda has been defeated, the single greatest motivating force behind my blogging efforts has all but disappeared. Not only has al Qaeda been defeated in Iraq, they have seriously tarnished their once-vaunted reputation throughout the Muslim world because of the nearly successful strategy they employed to indirectly defeat American forces. That strategy was to slaughter innocent Shiite civilians by the thousands in spectacular mass-casualty attacks that were covered in gory detail and incorrectly interpreted as evidence of "civil war" by an easily manipulated and largely anti-Bush world media. The fact that al Qaeda's evil strategy failed spectacularly does not mean that it wasn't brilliant. It was, and it came closer to working than I ever thought possible. But it didn't work, and that seems clear now. With al Qaeda's defeat in Iraq goes much of my motivation for blogging.
And there is one more contributing factor to my recent lack of blogging. As I reflect on what I have written, I am not entirely proud of it. The reason is that political debate is absurdly polarized in America (and throughout the world, I assume), so much so that each side treats the views of the other side with contempt (not with respect). Too often, I think that I have been that way myself. Not like bloggers who, in a fit of anger, hurl invective and spew profanity at those with whom they disagree. I never blog out of anger, and I'd never sink to that low level of debate. But what I don't always do is to respect mainstream views on the left that I simply cannot comprehend. In that sense, I am a bit like those on the left who say that "Bush lied!" and other such nonsense. They simply cannot comprehend the legitimate reasons Bush had to invade Iraq, so they resort to analyzing (and always demonizing) his internal motivations, as if they have keen insight into his mind. That does not seem like evidence-based reasoning to me. Instead, it seems like a lower form of political debate (i.e., strongly advocating your own diagnosis of the internal mental state of those with whom you disagree).
Recently, I've begun to worry that I am like that, too. I try not to demonize the anti-war left, but I often act as if there is not a legitimate point on view on that side of the spectrum (at least not with respect to post-invasion Iraq -- I certainly do respect the view that we never should have invaded in the first place). How could withdrawing our troops at the height of violence in Iraq (violence that was deliberately engineered by al Qaeda) be a legitimate position when virtually everyone agreed that genocide would result (the very outcome sought by al Qaeda)? I cannot understand that point of view anymore than the anti-war left can understand that Bush had legitimate reasons to invade in the first place. That being the case, I've accused some Democrats of lying about their reasons for wanting us to withdraw our troops in the face of al Qaeda's malicious offensive against the Shiites of Iraq. I wish I hadn't done that. Those who adhere to that impossible-to-understand position (i.e., withdrawing U.S. forces at the height of violence) include the center left, and, that being the case, I should just accept that they had what seemed like good reasons to them for advocating what even they must have known would, with a fairly high probability, result in a genocidal explosion of violence. The mere fact that I cannot comprehend their reasoning should not be taken by me to mean that no decent and clear-thinking person would ever hold to that view. I think their view was that an explosion of genocidal violence was going to happen regardless, so our withdrawal would only be accelerating the inevitable (something like that, anyway). In any case, my failure to understand their position sometimes caused me to attribute their positions to anti-Bush rage instead of to reasoned analysis. The anti-war left does seem to have a lot of anti-Bush rage, but my mistake was to simply take for granted the fact that such emotionality explains their impossible-to-understand point of view on post-invasion Iraq. When I take that step of diagnosing the secret origins of their position, I become just like the "Bush lied!" crowd. I definitely don't want to go there. Yet that's just where I sometimes find myself. Right now, as I write this, I know that decent and intelligent people had legitimate reasons for wanting to withdraw our troops at the height of violence in Iraq. In the heat of daily political debate, though, that thought is nowhere to be found in my writings.
I've come to think that polarized political debate (and the impossibility of understanding the views expressed by the other side) stems largely from differences in what each side counts as evidence. I am an evidence maniac, and I marshal massive amounts of objective evidence to make my case, whether the topic is Iraq or the economy. When I do, the case often seems open and shut to me. But if you have a different political orientation, it won't seem that way to you no matter how much evidence I present, and that's often because what you count as evidence differs from what I count as evidence. Occasionally, both sides slip into talking about the same evidence, as if the evidence can determine who has the stronger argument, but that's just an illusion. Take casualties in Iraq, for example. Sometimes, people on the left have said that it's a lie to suggest that casualties have decreased substantially since the onset of the troop surge (e.g., Hillary Clinton told General Petraeus that it required a willing suspension of disbelief to take that idea seriously), and they predict that violence will only get worse. Such claims seem to suggest that, to the left, casualty statistics are directly relevant to the debate. That, in turn, prompts me to start summarizing the objective evidence on the matter even more furiously. In time, though, I have come to appreciate that such evidence is not considered to be very relevant to those who strongly disagree with our efforts in Iraq (even if they occasionally make reference to that evidence). What matters to them, I believe, is other evidence and other considerations that do not matter very much to me, such as international law and the opinion of ordinary people in other countries (opinion as expressed in simple opinion polls but not as expressed in the outcome of election polls). To me, international law is critical when the topic is free trade but is largely irrelevant when the topic is national security. It's not that way if your political worldview leans to the left. Thus, the real source of the heated disagreement seems to lie in the answer to this question: what evidence should get the greatest weight when we were trying to decide whether or not to withdraw U.S. troops at the height of violence in Iraq? The left and the right attach much different weight to the various bits of evidence, and then they find the views of the other side incomprehensible. Demonization seems to be the automatic next step.
In any case, I'd like to find a way to forcefully disagree with others using evidence-based reasoning (always and in great detail) without also disparaging their views. By its very nature, that is hard to do when it comes to political debate. I'd like to someday better understand the nature of polarized political debate, but even if I never fully understand it, I want to argue forcefully yet in a way that better respects the views of those with whom I disagree (even if I am completely unable to comprehend their position). It could be, of course, that my political opponents really are evil or are driven by emotional rage (just as many on the left really believe their own diagnoses of the evil Bush White House), but, odds are, they are not that way. They are (from my point of view) just wrong. Being wrong is not the same as being morally depraved.
OK, that's it. I know that soul-searching is about as uninteresting a topic as one can imagine for a blog post, but I've gotten a lot of e-mails asking what is going here. That's the story. I think I will plunge into blogging again, but I'd like to find a way do it in a way that better resists the natural tendency to disparage the seemingly incomprehensible views of those on the other side of the argument.
July 13, 2008
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25 comments:
Glad to have you back.
I reached the same conclusions about the state of our national "debate" about a year ago, and stopped doing political posts around then. Mine were nowhere near as well researched as yours, of course, and I do think that you provided a useful service by giving a factual basis for arguments for continuing the war. Continuing the war, it is worth pointing out, turned out to be the correct decision.
It is interesting to me that we have become so polarized that rational discussion about the topic of Iraq (and the GWoT generally) is no longer possible. The left insists this is because we are afraid, and casts AQ as the boogeyman. By and large, they think we are overreacting. So rest assured, whatever contempt you feel for them is reciprocated. You are correct to be worried by it, as it is a hindrance to rational debate, but it is present on both sides.
On the right, of course, we are baffled by the behavior of the left. How can they not support a war that we are already engaged in, a war that their own politicians voted to begin? This is a question that I cannot really answer myself, but to them it seems that it doesn't matter what was done in the past, what they feel should be done in this moment is to pull out of Iraq. Regardless of the consequences, regardless of what brought us to this point. To me, that looks criminally irresponsible. To a left-leaning Democrat, it's just the opposite -- it's the right thing to do.
How we bridge this gap will be an ongoing problem regardless of who is elected in November. I don't believe it will go away when we pull our troops out of Iraq. This fracture in our society was present at least as far back as Vietnam. I did not fully appreciate the nature of it until after 9/11.
Anyway -- as I said I'm glad to have you back, and I look forward to more of your insightful posts. I hope that everything settles down for you personally and professionally.
I am glad that you are back. Your clear voice was missed.
You are indeed correct about the nature of the political debate at this time. There is a disconnect between views on the left and right across a spectrum of issues (abortion, Iraq, global warming, taxation...) that is not subject to resolution by evidence or reasoning. In my view, while there is no cure for this state of affairs, it is still essential to keep setting forth reasoned, evidence-based views for one's positions without resort to ad hominem attacks. In the long run, that's the best we can do.
You have an audience for your well researched contributions to these exchanges and I am glad to know you will continue to participate.
Chuck
Please keep up the blogging Prof Ingram. You do an excellent job assembling the facts and presenting the arguments. I routinely save articles of yours for reference. Present the arguments and let them stand. It's possible that you do too often say (as most of us also think) that if you look at these facts and this logic then something's got to be wrong with you to disagree. So, maybe cut back on that (even if the sentiment is entirely legitimate to most of us).
Please keep it up!
Mark in Portland
Engram, you seem to be raising doubts about the nature of Truth and epistemology. This is at the root of every disagreement. Yet, enough of us are in sufficient agreement about the rules of knowing to continue dialog and form societies.
It seems non-logical to suggest there are reasoned, evidence-based arguments you cannot understand. Perhaps if you were slow-witted some arguments would lie beyond your grasp.
Feeling-based arguments are beyond comprehension, and I suggest are the cause for the quality of political debate. The optimal technique is to use reason to determine the best available policy and to use feelings to motivate people to follow that policy. Reasoning is hard, and the best conclusion doesn't often align with the nicest feeling. And thus we are guided by gut toward ineffective solutions.
The weighing of evidence is essential to reasoned argument. One of the several strengths of this blog is your ability to show how some evidence is weaker or less-relevant than other evidence. Conclusions based on weaker evidence cannot be the basis of sound policy.
Absolute truth, I think, is impossible. Coherent and useful truth is what we have to work with. Those who prefer weaker evidence are, for real-world purposes, wrong. Their motives are not as important as their actions and the consequences.
Imputing and projecting motive is a rhetorical tool. It helps explain and persuade. But the soundness of an argument does not depend on the motive of the arguer. Rhetoric is also entertaining, and your tone is clearly effective, as evidenced by the impassioned responses to your posts.
You may have an ideal of more civil debate. This is noble. But civility is a luxury. To allow weak arguments to prevail out of fear of being shrill will only prolong the suffering.
What you seem to be describing is the confusion and puzzlement experienced by any rational person who brings evidence and facts into what is essentially the equivalent of a religious argument.
I wish to echo a few good points already made in prior comments:
(1) Many people use politics to replace religion. They follow leaders, not facts. They protest not to create actual change but because it feels good for their soul. They ignore hypocrisy in who their leaders support because they understand their cause to be righteous. Their opponents seen as evil, not misinformed or confused or of a different opinion.
(2) The fact that many replace religion with politics does not mean this is healthy for them or the country. In fact, the situation increases the need for rational, clear, informed, public political debate.
(3) Religion is, by its nature, only truly understandable to the "insiders". There is nothing wrong with being unable to understand someone else's religious views. Attempting to do so is not obligatory. Politely refusing the attempt is not a weakness.
Neo-neocon linked to a very sensible paper on how-to rules for arguing political positions:
http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/tactn/tactn010.htm
I am glad you are posting again and look forward to more insightful posts. I also think you are a little too hard on yourself. People are often dishonest about their reasons for supporting certain policies. It is not simply a left wing malady. It is something we have all done at some time or other and there is nothing wrong with calling people on it. I think it is something all honest people struggle with.
We all come to issues with some idea of what we want to believe. That is why you have left and right wing journals and blogs. I value this blog because you determine what is right and not how to make facts fit your world view.
I personally believe this is a problem for people who identify strongly with a political movement. If your identity is tied up in being on the left or right judging an issue on its merits threatens your image of who you are. You cannot afford to do that. Ideologues often lie about their reasons. They lie to us, but they also lie to themselves.
I hope you continue blogging and not worrying to about other people. You are not one of the polarizers.
Welcome back Professor Wixted. I was becoming concerned about you.
You have been an example of reasoned analysis and debate throughout the conflict in Iraq. As one of the minority who advocated keeping on when so many were prepared to concede Iraq to al Qaeda and Iran I've been disappointed not to see you here as the war is clearly entering its final stages.
Your post is however on of the few with which I disagree. You are far too hard on yourself and you appear unwilling to call the Democrats to account.
They saw the same evidence as Bush, came to the same conclusions as he did, voted for the war-and then when it became difficult and there were votes to be gained by opposing the war, they opposed it. And they then called Bush a liar. They lowered the standard of debate.
And they opposed winning the war regardless of the disastrous consequences of defeat.
One may lament the divisiveness and bitterness that characterizes political debate in America but as one of those who was right about whether to continue the war or withdraw in defeat, you should let those who were wrong on that issue say they were wrong before you question your debating style.
Frankly when significant numbers of Americans (39% according to one poll result I read) are troofers and the political tone in the country is set by organizations like NYT, WP, MSNBC and people like Jon Stewart, Maher, Moore etc, etc, there is little chance of civilized debate.
Terry Gain
Whew, thought we'd lost you for a bit there.
Your blog posts, whether on economics or on war, have been models of civil discourse -- well researched as to fact, fair as to comment, free from evidence of personal animus. Keep going and don't be discouraged. As Stilwell advised, "Illegitimi non carborundum."
Yes, welcome back! I link your posts frequently when I wish to make a point in the current debate. Please don't lose heart.
It is a tough debate but few manage it as civilly as you do IMO.
Respect your decision either way, but should you stop blogging because AQI has been defeated, your posts on economy and global warming will be missed as well.
I echo the majority opinion here - I appreciate all of the fact-based analysis which is so rare elsewhere, and hope that you will find a path that allows you to keep writing on the topics that interest you.
Welcome back Engram. Sorry to hear about the turmoil in your personal life. Echoing the above and that I still checked your blog every day, good to have your voice back and hope you can continue and even branch out to other topics. Your death penalty, income distribution posts and other areas were all excellent. Hopefully you can keep doing the Casulaties in Iraq monthly post and fill in the data for June. It's important to keep documenting that. Good to have you back.
Excellent post Engram. Its great to read something new. I hope that things calm down for you and that your family life returns to a happy normal state.
I agree with much of what you write, but I have a bit to add. While there some who indeed practice disinformation campaigns like 9/11 Trutherisms, CodePink’s Walter Reed/anti-recruiter protesting, ANSWER’s Marxist anti-Imperialism rubbish, etc… it is impossible to know to what extent the entire movement of “anti-war” activism is truly anti-war or the result of individuals who approach their activism with sincerity. They should be judged on a case-by-case basis.
Before the War on Terror I was a supporter of the Democratic Party, but their recent partisan rhetoric disgusted me so much that I took up blogging.
If Obama is elected as president I will support him if he supports the War on Terror.
If the Republican Party attempts to damage our foreign policy in a similar manner as the Democratic Party is doing now, I will oppose them every step of the way.
Each circumstance must be examined in context.
AQ has been defeated in Iraq. But what about elsewhere?
Glad you're back. Your data based discussions are vital to many of your readers. But you're not the polarizer..nor are you responsible for the radical left's religious beliefs. As for attributing an underlying civility to those whose hateful rhetoric has truly been polarizing, I'm afraid you'r off the mark here. The debate is indeed greater than only about Iraq or AQ...and the uncivil should not so easily be let off the hook. It is simply true that this is also about domestic political power...the power to determine who wins, loses, who pays and who decides EVERYTHING. And it is equally true that there are those who love this power more than they love America. Don't sell yourself short. You are not them. Nor the converse.
Great post. Speaking personally, I think by the standards of the blogosphere, you've been a paragon of fair-mindedness. Those who are the most introspective of the importance of a proper consideration for the opinions of others tend not to stomp on them too heavily. While you may have written some things you regret, you've written many things that some of us that *don't* always agree with you are thankful for. You have an original and valuable voice.
Your posts are fabulous.
I did have slight reservations sharing them with my friends on the left because of the occasional snark and their exceedingly thin skin, but the data analysis and links to primary sources has been most educational.
I agree with other commenters here.
Perfection is unattainable.
Just do your best, and let that be good enough.
Glad to have you back. I describe what you are posting about as intellectual honesty. We all think that we are correct. I agree with your concerns about political discussion in today's U.S. I am worried that the day is comming when we are seeing our political opponets as being a greater threat than the external enemies we must deal with.
Just wanted to add my voice among those welcoming you back and to send my condolences about the death in the family.
Your post is a perfect example of the thoughtfulness you put into this site and why it is so valuable to your readers. I can only add that I think you manage to walk the line between political argument and factual debate extremely well, laying out your evidence, and building your case on that evidence.
Glad to see you are back and keep up the exceptional work.
Your return is most welcome. I enjoy reading your clear, detailed, logical, posts.
Please continue to analyze and present facts on Iraq and other issues.
I've learned a lot from you and in part you inspired me to start my own poor efforts in the blogosphere.
Thank you.
Glad you're back. I've been through a similar time-off process myself, and it was helpful to look back and reflect. Then I came back. I hope you do, too, because we (speaking about the blogosphere in general) can always use more voices who based their reasoning on things like evidence and facts.
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